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Cnn legalen lift michael zeldin joins us, a former prosecutor. what does it mean when a special counsel goes to having the grand jury help in the investigation? what does that tell us? >> you normally start the investigation with an informal process of interviewing witnesses. then you cross over to the formal process of convening a grand jury. the grand jury can then subpoena documents and take testimony of people under oath. once it's ga-- its gathered tha information, a decision to indict or not. that's the full job of the grand jury. what we see from mueller, uptick from informal to formal....

Russia is sort of on the other side of that conflict. they've got their one creaky old aircraft carrier over there in the syrian theater and everything. let's say hypothetically that we've got incredible intel on how we're going to outflanknk russia in that militar fight or what russian will do next because we've got a spy high up in the rusan government that has secretly fed us that information unbeknownst to the russian government, let's say that information is rlly important for american natioiona security for military strategy for other things we're doing in the region that a hinge on this...