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Department is willing to prosecute such a case as it's doing with steve bannon. this is the last option the committee has available to it to try to compel them. and given the nature of the way that they behave and the way that they conduct their work, i think it tends to be unlikely that they will be persuaded to cooperate. but there is always that threat of additional criminal prosecution. and so, i think the committee is just doing everything within its power to try to get that cooperation. >> what do you think of the totality of the five names on this list? >> well, i think the committee is...

Elections. and on january 6th, that process didn't work. the certification did not proceed smoothly. it did not proceed without violence in the first time in the country's history. and so, that's the goal of the committee and so they are trying to speak and hear from and receive testimony from anybody who had knowledge about how we got to that point. >> carrie, stand by for just a second, if you will. i want to bring in david friedlander, a contributor to politico magazine who's done extensive reporting on two of the individuals subpoenaed who were key players in the former president's stop th...