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And bernie sanders and hillary clinton, three pretty old candidates demonstrated that the american people were scared to death by barack obama's inexperienced and radicalism. they wanted to try experience. even if they were left, they wanted the experience. >> brian: wendy, i want you to weigh in. what about president -- mitt romney? >> i want to touch upon matt's point. he talked about experience. donald trump out of all of the candidates has the least amount of experience. that'sou -- >> that's not true. >> it is true. he is a reality star, matt. >> he has 71 years of business experience and...

Like ben better -- bernanke and the other head chairs are saying? >> we haven't had a real recovery in four years. we really haven't. you just get the feeling that the economy is ready to pop. the argument though is everything washington is doing is holding back this expansion. that'sou the frustration investors and businesses feel. on the positive side you have the energy -- i highly agree with your conversation that technology are just drivers ofy high how perked -- high powered growth. but the force are the higher tax rates that are coming in 2013 and some of the regulation s in sew bough m...