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Catholic and that his put his head down and shook his head know and she finally told him that trayvon martin had passed. she told that you, right? >> i don't remember that conversation but she may have. >> okay. >> did anything at all -- and i want you to really drill into it. and i'm sorry, i know that you've heard it. i have a transcript of the interview. would that assist you as i ask you some questions about the interview. >> if you have an extra copy. i might have one myself. >> up to the state.

Uncaring or other things were going on. >> did in the investigation, did he -- i'm sorry, in the interview, and we're talking now about the one that happened at midnight, did he seem to be cavalier or uncaring in the way he answered your questions? >> not necessarily. >> anything in interview that you would point out to the jury where you thought he was acting cavalier? by that i mean something like "can i go home no?" or "are we done here?" or "there's a midnight movie i want to catch"? >> other than potentially making himself unavailable for a next-day follow up because he to go to class -- ...

Believe him, statements that your client made that corroborated everything else and that's where we were on that last interview. i had nothing of substance to basically toss it in to confront him with as far as the interview went, other than suspicious lack of remembering the streets, how many streets he had in his neighborhood and other oddities but that would have compelled me to go ahead and keep on interviewing him, they did quite add up. it would have had to have been further. >> so then what you decided to take on, which is another useful police tactic, if you will, is what you call a ch...

>> exactly. >> -- stole eight cars in the neighborhood and you have his fingerprints on six of them and he's just telling you he was in the library studying. >> correct. >> that challenge is you walk in the interview and go you got one last chance, you're going to prison a long, long time and or you tell me what happened. that's a really aggressive challenge interview, correct? >> yes, sir. >> you have to modify the challenge style based upon what you have to hit him with, right? >> yes. >> and in this case you didn't have a lot to hit him with, right? >> no. >> now the reason you're having hi...

He could get in there and rub it in a little bit more and he's not doing that yet. >> let's reserve judgment on that. >> we'll reserve judgment, that's right. that's it for "the lead." i turn you over to wolf blitzer in "the situation room" who will continue the coverage of the george zimmerman trial. >> happening in his own words, jurors see and hear george zimmerman on tape recounting those dramatic chain of events that ended in trayvon martin's death. >> also, it's the deadliest blaze since the 9/11 attacks and the deadliest in arizona history. and former government george w. bush breaking ...