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Nobody said this was a bad idea. this has been ratified. these cases were brought to court. the d.a. in staten island said these are crazy days. don't bring this through. he. so there is a lot of very serious issues to look at beyond the particular events that occurred on the situation there. >> go ahead. this is a white collar crime. avoiding taxes. why do you get a guy in a chokehold, jump him like that if it is a tax law. >> i think we're focusing on the wrong things. >> we're focusing on the wrong thing. not why he stopped hem but what happened. that should be the focus. and the idea that ...

Breathe and that police officer showed deliberate indifference, that's intent. someone is screaming, i cannot breathe. i am more concerned with the need for police training so this doesn't happen again. >> okay. let me go to mr. cavanagh. we've talk about solutions. the president led the way on monday and i was very impressed. he said police cameras on the person of the policeman, training, arrest methods, obviously. how do you de-escalate an incident like this? a recruitment of minorities? here you see white police officers who have been trained not to use chokeholds and it is on film. all th...