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Confusing, mueller's team was closing it out by saying, even if you didn't get the details, he lied because he was doing the wrong thing. >> that's the problem with white collar cases, it's extremely complicated, unless you understand business structures, tax law, how financing works, how payments are made, it's very difficult to explain this to a jury and in such detail that they know the person is guilty. it's a tough case to run. it's a matrix. one of the questions was, can you match up exhibits with the indictment because we want to know what goes with what charges? this is such a complica...