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Rationale he's offering to get in at this late stage? >> well he, i think, sees himself as goldielocks candidate. you have bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, two candidates who are promising to fundamentally change the american capitalist system, and the candidate in fourth is pete buttigieg, the 30-something mayor who's dynamic but he's very young. so the theory is that deval patrick can come n he's 63, a two-therm governor, he's progressive, but he's a capitalist that, you know, he's worked for private enterprise, he has some experience there that he can come in and unite these factions of...

Deval patrick what's the rationale he's offering to get in at this late stage? >> well he, i think, sees himself as goldielocks candidate. you have bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, two candidates who are promising to fundamentally change the american capitalist system, and the candidate in fourth is pete buttigieg, the 30-something mayor who's dynamic but he's very young. so the theory is that deval patrick can come n he's 63, a two-therm governor, he's progressive, but he's a capitalist that, you know, he's worked for private enterprise, he has some experience there that he can come in an...

Political gimmick. that's the one side. we'll hear from the president and his side coming up in a matter of moments when he comes to that microphone in washington. martha: we expect that very shortly, and one of the questions is how much money would actually be raised if you could implement the buffet rule, which i think is about $4 billion in a year, and that, according to some of these numbers, is about the same number as the u.s. government debt runs up per day. so it's a drop in the bucket, as you guys have been talking about, in terms of the actual numbers that would translate. so it leav...