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Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20220104 00:36:00

those are fighting words. the the the big lie trump has put forward is incentivizing violence and it s why it s such a terrible act by any leader to to to basically falsely portray to encourage such action. i totally understand what you are saying but i am looking at 41% of independents and a quarter of democrats, right, who won the election. i mean, when you look at your own party, does that concern you? a quarter of them say the same thing. as i was listening to to how that poll was framed, either some cases where violence might be justified. i am hoping those folks who said yes are saying if an authoritarian force seeks to steal our right to vote, we have to stand up and fight back. and i hope that s i hope that that s the sentiment that was was there because those that would mean that those folks are saying we have to defend our

Transcripts for CNN Fareed Zakaria GPS 20211212 15:19:00

kingdom and canada all followed suit. china in turn warned countries would pay a price for their boycotts. what does all of this mean? joining me again, anne applebaum and ian bremmer. ian, this move with china does seem to be part of a kind of expression of the balancing act that the united states is now trying to play with china. on the one hand, athletes are participating in a sense the united states is participating, but there won t be any government officials there. it feels like an effort to metaphorically have the same policy towards china, which is some deterrence, some toughness but at the same time recognizing the reality it s a big trading partner. and recognition if biden loses votes at home and he s seen too soft on china, like they did in 2020 as a consequence of the whole biden asia trope.

Transcripts for CNN Fareed Zakaria GPS 20211212 18:19:00

expression of the balancing act that the united states is now trying to play with china. on the one hand, athletes are participating, in a sense the united states is participating, but there won t be any government officials there. it feels like an effort to metaphorically have the same policy towards china, which is some deterrence, some toughness but at the same time recognizing the reality it s a big trading partner. and recognition that biden loses votes at home and he s seen too soft on china, like they did in 2020 as a consequence of the whole biden asia trope. so they did move ahead with a diplomatic boycott. but, frankly, it s not just that the athletes are still going. there s no economic going or sponsors to pull out of the olympics. we ve seen a number of different signs, small but matter, that show the american and chinese are trying to find ways to

Transcripts for CNN Fareed Zakaria GPS 20211212 18:20:00

cooperate when it s clearly in the company s best national interest. here the announcement to start working together in the cop26 on climate. also the united states reached out directly to the chinese and secured a level of cooperation when both countries released oil from the strategic reserves at the same time. why? prices are high and there are challenges at home in dealing with inflation. so on balance, i agree it s a balancing act, but not just international, but also domestic politics. anne, you ve written an article about the autocracies in the atlantic. one point you make, and this is probably more true of russia but also china, but that they re increasingly connecting with one another. do you think there s going to be

Transcripts for CNN Fareed Zakaria GPS 20211212 15:20:00

so they did move ahead with a diplomatic boycott. but frankly it s not just that the athletes are still going. there s no economic going or sponsors to pull out of the olympics. we ve seen a number of different signs, small but matter, that show the american and chinese are trying to find ways to cooperate when it s clearly in the company s best national interest. here the announcement to start working together in the cop26 on climate. also the united states reached out directly to the chunninese secured a level of cooperation when both countries released oil from the strategic reserves at the same time. why? prices are high and there are challenges at home with inflation. it s a balancing act, not just international but also domestic politics. anne, you ve written an article about the autocracies in

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