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Basically create a better plan to move forward, what you do is you punish elderly people, poor people, and the middle class by giving a tax break to the 1% wealthiest people in the country. i think what you saw today was him trying to deflect, but the bottom line is this, speaker ryan and president trump are not on the same page. and if you see what they did with the breitbart audio releasing the tapes, they already tried to discredit speaker ryan and basically put this in his lap and force his repuic colleagues to try to pass his bill. >> ah, and tim kearny, the other thing yo hear from sean ...

National political reporter at the "washington post." capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt and bill crystal, thanks to all of you to joining us. robert costa, the fact that breitbart, at this moment, puts out that article last night with that audio and also, i can just read it here. some of the writing in it, it's awfully heavy handed. this is the first major niche they've that trump has worked won ryan. the fact it is going to poorly calls into question whether speaker ryan really understands how trump won and how to win in the neral. robert costa, the fact that this was steve bannon's site ...

They're calling it ryancare. it headlined after headline. now, my sources at the white house tell me, bannon isn't getting along as he used to in the same way with the editors and writers of the breitbart, but there's a lot of suspicion on capitol hill among many republicans i'm speaking to privately that bannon may have some kind of sway with this group, that he's enabling this to happen, but again, these are suspicions on capitol hill. and there has been little to no reporting that bannon is in any way connected to breitbart's coverage. >> and kasie, right now, the politics of this on capito...

Do what you feel you need to do. >> now this is the first time we're hearing the audio of that call, but we did know from reporting back then that this is what ryan had told his fellow republicans. so really, the story here, the significance here of the release of this audio, it is the timing and it is the source. it is the fact that breitbart, the publication once owned by steve bannon, is releasing this. this breitbart site of course was unabashedly pro trump throughout the campaign. it has deep ties to a segment of trump's base within the republican party. so why is breitbart choosing this ...

Steve. >> all right chris jansing at the white house, thanks for that. now the backdrop for this phone conversation, it's going to be taking place, we are told in the next few minutes. president trump, house speaker paul ryan, the backdrop here goes back to this newly released tape from breitbart, the conservative news site releasing audio last night of what they say are ryan's comments to republican lawmakers from back in october. that was the height of the -- that was the height of the presidential campaign. that explosive access hollywood video had just come out in the tape paul ryan basica...