♪ ♪ charles: well, as the 2020 presidential field continues to grow, my next guest says it's shaping up to be, quote, the democratic primary from hell, end quote. karl rove is a "wall street journal" columnist and former senior adviser to president george w. bush. carl, you also -- karl, you also say pass the popcorn. [laughter] >> yeah, it's going to be a heck of a great theater for us. the democrats have changed the rules on the calendar in four very profound ways. they're going to start earlier. the first republican debate in 2015 was in august, the first democratic debate will be in ju...