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More jobs here in michigan. so that is always an important part. so right now i would have to go with her. reporter: do you think tonight will be a bigger one? >> i do. i think the bigger candidates will be out obviously with joe biden and the vice president. i'm looking forward to see what his message is tonight. reporter: we don't want to keep you late for work, anthony. more of that coming later. steve: excellent analysis. brian: the candidates are saying bernie sanders i will get rid of all cars except electric cars. really? you're in michigan. a lot of people are happy with the number one...

It's always brown people and black people. i think there are people many the republican party who don't like the tweets. they don't like what's happening with regards to race. they don't like the division. they don't like the racist tweets. maybe in some cases they like some pieces of the policy. they don't like what's happening with immigration and how it's happening, how it's unfolding but maybe they like the tax cuts. maybe they like what he did with prisons, with the prison reform. there's some republican who is will justify some bits of the policy. there are others who ought to be speakin...

Itself from continuing to refer these visas by referring them to other agencies. what was the purpose that far policy? >> so if you read the policy, that is not what it does. our wage and hour administrator after she was confirmed came in, and she reviewed the policies. and she put in place a requirement that a criminal prosecutor be consulted any time one of these issues is brought to the division's attention. that seems very reasonable. don't we want criminal prosecutors to be consulted whenever someone says that they are victim of trafficking? and that prosecutor will be consulted. and even...

There is value to a sure guilty plea because letting him walk, letting with the state attorney was ready to do, go forward, would have been absolutely awful. >> yes ben penn from bloomberg law, in light of the attention this week on your handling of this back in 2008, victims of sex trafficking, i want to ask about your world today is the secretary of labor. you have oversight of the wage and hour division of certifying visas of victims of human trafficking, just last week your division issued a new policy that would essentially allow the agency, it is being criticized by a lot of people that ...

Certify these visas by referring them to other agencies. what was the purpose of that policy? >> so that is, if you read the policy that is not what it does, our wage and hour administrator after she was confirmed came in and reviewed the policies. she put in place a requirement that a criminal prosecutor be consulted anytime one of these issues is brought to the division's attention, and that seems very reasonable. don't we want criminal prosecutors to be consulted whenever someone says that they are a victim of trafficking. and that prosecutor will be consulted and if the prosecutor says thi...