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Man. there are no checks on mr. putin. just as he made the irresponsible decision to invade ukraine, you know, he could make another decision. but i don't see anything right now that would lead me to believe he has made such a decision. >> mr. secretary, what is your analysis of how well ukraine has done? we've all seen and been stunned by this recapture of territory, the russians fleeing. but what i want to ask you is a question everyone has is, they've been able to do a lot. they'll probably be able to push forward some more. but is it likely in the next few months the ukrainians will be abl...

Essentially saying at this point that if he feels there is an attack from nato, i suppose, on russian territory, which now includes all of the donbas, he reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response. >> again, it's an illegal claim. it's an irresponsible statement. these are -- this nuclear sabre rattling is not the kinds of thing we would expect to hear from leaders of large countries with capability. and so what we can expect to see, we can expect the ukrainians will continue to move forward and attempt to take back all of the territory within their -- within their sovereign borders...

Back some territory, russia defends a lot of it and they're stuck in a stalemate. >> it's hard to predict what is going to happen. i think the ukrainians have amazed the world in terms of their ability to fight back, their ability to exercise initiative, their commitment to the defense of their democracy, and that willingness to fight has rallied the international community in an effort to help provide them the security assistance so that they can continue to fight. they did a magnificent job early on. they won the battle of kyiv. we saw a bit of a slowdown, a stalemate as the battle transitio...

Meetings with indo-pacific allies about security in that region. we'll get to that in a moment, particularly concerns about china's military moves, but first, russia and ukraine. secretary austin, pleasure to have you on the program. >> thanks, fareed. a real pleasure to be with you. >> i was in ukraine a couple of weeks and talked to a number of people there, including your counterpart. one of the things that they do say is that they would dearly wish for more american weaponry, but particularly longer-range weapons. the biden administration has been hesitant to do that, because of the fear o...

Attack from nato, i suppose, on russian territory, which now includes all of the donbas, he reserves the right to use nuclear weapons in response. >> again, it's an illegal claim. it's an irresponsible statement. these are -- this nuclear saber rattling is not the kind of thing we would expect to hear from leaders of large countries with capability. and so what we can expect to see, we can expect the ukrainians will continue to move forward and attempt to take back all of the territory within their -- within their sovereign borders here. so i don't think that's going to stop, and we will conti...