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Before "the times." so it wasn't top-secret information. everybody who knows biden, it would logical for him thinking a way and a rationale and an opportunity to run for president. it's what he spent most of his adult life trying to do. >> wrestling with and orchestrating the press coverage and how it's discussed are two different things, though. >> i suppose. maybe i covered this for a little too long, but -- >> nothing surprises you? >> look. when he first talked about his son and his son's dying wish to have him run for president, it struck me as an excuse to either run or not run. you know...

Fact. but i'm just wondering, is that the message they're sending, that you republicans, who are stubborn to change, your god, your olympus, did just the things we're talking about now. >> well, that's the point they're trying to make. obviously reagan served at another time and another place. that was a different america. and he got those things passed in part because he had to work with a democratic house that was not always oriented toward his ideas. he had to make compromises. now, you can make a good point about that and say some compromise would be helpful today, but i don't think it con...

He dwarfs guys. i thought he was 6'1". that must mean the congress men using him are five feet tall. >> he seems that tall in retrospect. the two most popular modern presidents are john f. kennedy and ronald reagan. if you want to get something done, marry the two of them together, use them at your argument, you've might have a better shot. >> some cases poor ronald reagan must be rolling in this grave. reaching for the guy's throat. what are you doing? but leaving that aside, obviously the case of the hike in the gas tax and pushing republicans on amnesty, what they're saying is the last time...

>> all right. so you're not going to use him. what's this guy? john kennedy? the democratic president would warned that taxes be cut. >> anytime favor of a tax cut because i'm concerned if we don't get the tax cut we're going to have an increase in unemployment and that we may move into a period of economic downturn. >> so, larry stab would dough on the danger of looking like cutups when you're using the wrong guy's cutout. >> i think they probably should have had at least one, maybe two democratic cutouts. you're absolutely correct. but they use reagan because they realized they're moving int...

Oh, helzberg diamonds. another beautiful setting. i'm not crying. i've just got a bit of sand in my eyes, that's all. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. what is it with all this reagan stuff. i'm not talking about republicans who can't stop praising him. i'm talking about democrats who suddenly can't stop using him or at least a cardboard cutout of him to sell congress on a hike in gasoline taxes because that's what reagan would do. or amnesty for illegals because that's what reagan did. i'm just wondering where are the cutouts of democrats, and t...