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And there's been lots of arrests even there. oh, yeah. some of the criminals have already been convicted. so there is work in progress in that, which we believe we need to do more. but, yeah, you do need to do more. sorry to interrupt you here, but you cannot get on top of this, can you, minister? a report this year by a geneva based ngo, the gitoc, that's the global initiative against transnational 0rganised crime, says all of the things i was talking about "are signs that the state is struggling to contain criminal activity. "in three decades, organised crime has spread across south africa a...

Some of the criminals have already been convicted. so there is work in progress in that, which we believe we need to do more. but, yeah, you do need to do more. sorry to interrupt you here, but you cannot get on top of this, can you, minister? a report this year by a geneva based ngo, the gitoc, that's the global initiative against transnational 0rganised crime, says all of the things i was talking about "are signs that the state is struggling to contain criminal activity. "in three decades, organised crime has spread across south africa and forged links across the world". yes, hence we are pu...

Already been convicted. so there is work in progress in that, which we believe we need to do more. but, yeah, you do need to do more. sorry to interrupt you here, but you cannot get on top of this, can you, minister? a report this year by a geneva based ngo, the gitoc, that's the global initiative against transnational 0rganised crime, says all of the things i was talking about "are signs that the state is struggling to contain criminal activity. "in three decades, organised crime has spread across south africa and forged links across the world". yes, hence we are putting a focus on this form ...

On the, on the issue of the mining towns challenges. and there's been lots of arrests even there. oh, yeah. some of the criminals have already been convicted. so there is work in progress in that, which we believe we need to do more. but, yeah, you do need to do more. sorry to interrupt you here, but you cannot get on top of this, can you, minister? a report this year by a geneva based ngo, the gitoc, that's the global initiative against transnational 0rganised crime, says all of the things i was talking about "are signs that the state "is struggling to contain criminal activity. "in three dec...