Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130803:15:34:00
Tell us where we are. but on the other hand, i feel like, when you have success -- we do so many bad news education stories, i wanted to do a good news one. that says, when you look at these tests, you've seen some improvement, but what are the other substantiative measures that we need to have, in order to say, our schools are performing well for our kids? >> so, again, tests are not the end all to the be all, but they are an objective way for us to look across lots of states, lots of school districts, and what not. but we look at student satisfaction, we look at graduation rates. student sat...