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Think tank member on the messaging app. now most experts say that tensions between the u.s. and china will get much worse before they get better, coming at a very delicate time. at trade negotiations between the two largest economy is in the world. >> shepard: deirdre, thanks. they were down 800 points at least on the dow at one point. and right now, the dow is off by 420 or so. it tanked on tuesday, the last session. they are up in two sessions. live from the new york stock exchange in lower manhattan. >> i've got to tell you, it's another bad day on the stock exchange. 424 points, and this i...

Deterrent, right now you get caught, they take you down to the border come have a nice day, don't come back. the next day, people come back because there is no penalty. this would be an automatic five year mandatory minimum in federal hard lock up. that is a serious deterrent. >> jon: but those who do not like this law suggest you don't have enough prison space for that many people. >> the is one of the arguments. according to the u.s. sentencing commission, it would add 57,000 people do federal prisons at a cost of $2 billion per year, annual budget is 7-$8 billion, so there is the cause. the...