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Previous opposition administrations in terms of their foreign policy goals and means of being too muscular in terms of too readily available to use military force. not taking advantage of all the diplomatic tools in their kit back before you resort to military force. here we have an absolute golden opportunity to use all of the tools in a diplomatic kit bag, not only for ourselves to speak out against what is happening in iran, but for our diplomats to organize a diplomatic coalition to speak out and to sanction the iranian regime. it is well-known, martha, that this administration eased up on...

They're impeding all of the good things we're doing. as an example, today it's the border. we're strengthening up our border with a great country. we have other great countries that will be signing on also. we're doing this all because the democrats won't give us what we need. so simple, get rid of the loop holes, work on asylum. it would take a very short period of time. they won't do it. all they want to do is impede. they want to investigate. they want to go fishing. i watched bob mueller and they have nothing. there's no collusion, there's no obstruction. they have nothing. it's a disgrace...

They said they are people. they're not people. these are animals. >> well, you know, it's outside the event where a group of protesters gathered earlier in the day, mostly local immigrant rights groups. while they agree with the president that ms-13 is a huge problem, they disagree with his approach, especially when it comes to the language that is used. take a listen. >> we're here to defend everyone. the language that this president and the congressmen and peter king is using is unacceptable. it doesn't lead to solutions. it's causing more division in the community. >> the point of solutions...

You have all of the deductions, the interest deduction on debt. so the effective rate was down to 22%. so this is really -- this is a moving target. we don't know enough to really assess it. i'll tell you this. i know from covering the hedge fund business and short sales and sophisticated investors, if they bring it down to 25 and they get all the loop holes, they kill all the loop holes, guess what will happen? people start selling stocks. they'll say that is not a credit to companies and you sell the s&p. that's what -- i'm not saying it will be a huge debacle in the markets, but there will ...

Tell me about the president's proposal yesterday. then let's hear from mike murphy. >> it is so classic obama. it's a press release. do we know exactly what he is proposing? is there a bill? do we know whether it's 20%, 25%, 30%? we know that he and warren buffet agree that warren buffet should pay more taxes. >> and he is saying because of that everybody should do it. >> if warren buffet wants to pay more taxes let him pay more taxes. >> i don't know his proposal because it really isn't a proposal. >> the bush tax -- >> let me make -- one simple thing. obama's commission had it right. bowles ...