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Beat me. i don't know. >> you know, no. actually, in that spirit, kent hanson and i are good friends. is he a guy that beat me by the way. dad, no, i think it's a great story. of the human heart. that and i make the case in the book at 92, incredibly tough on him. and i didn't realize it. because is he not a man of self-pity. >> after he lost? >> amp he lost. it hurt it stung him. and, yet, soon thereafter he and bill clinton, the man who beat him established a very strong relationship. so, you know, you make choices in life. dad chose not to be a bitter person. not so say defeat defines me. i...

And after that match, anyone who saw bobby riggs, his best friend, sat there with him, he was staring straight into space, he was in an ice tub, he was mortified he lost. there is no way that was a thrown match. >> and there is also -- we'll take a break here, i'll pick this up on the other side, reading about the relationship in the later years is interesting too. i want to ask you about that and talk about the evolution of women's sports since the battle of the sexes. with the spark miles card from capital one, bjorn earns unlimited rewards for his small business. take these bags to room 12 ...

Ryan. bottom line, it be electric a fight about entitlements. if you think the fairness issue now is large, it will be far worse. the upstate congressional race last year, the... bi-election was a referendum on ryanful he lost. there is nothing in his plan to suggest the same thing won't happened. portman's a real player. ryan, i think is doa. >> to stop ryan, put him in the vice presidency. >> liz: how much do you think it matters at the end of the day? i like to think it matters. but at the end of the day, how much does a vice-presidential candidate really matter? >> for a lot of real conser...

Chance that it would be paul ryan. bottom line, it be electric a fight about entitlements. if you think the fairness issue now is large, it will be far worse. the upstate congressional race last year, the... bi-election was a referendum on ryanful he lost. there is nothing in his plan to suggest the same thing won't happened. portman's a real player. ryan, i think is doa. >> to stop ryan, put him in the vice presidency. >> liz: how much do you think it matters at the end of the day? i like to think it matters. but at the end of the day, how much does a vice-presidential candidate really matter...

Ryan. bottom line, it be electric a fight about entitlements. if you think the fairness issue now is large, it will be far worse. the upstate congressional race last year, the... bi-election was a referendum on ryanful he lost. there is nothing in his plan to suggest the same thing won't happened. portman's a real player. ryan, i think is doa. >> to stop ryan, put him in the vice presidency. >> liz: how much do you think it matters at the end of the day? i like to think it matters. but at the end of the day, how much does a vice-presidential candidate really matter? >> for a lot of real conser...