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Also, also before he made promises to senator collins and flake about voting they'll have. he's not bargaining in good faith. >> senator schumer held the line here. he's under a lot of pressure with the anti-trump sentiment. he said i'm going listen to you and fight. i'm not going to back down and sign on to the bill. do you think that ultimately that was the right decision? >> i think so. i kind of wish we would have framed it in the broader sense of the budget. why are we here right now? we're here right now because the republicans have not been able to pass a budget. and within the budget a...

Whiplash and mixed signals sent out leading up to the shutdown, you have to step back from this and wonder if they're not okay with where things are, if they think this isn't leveling the playing field politically. you have to ask because of the wall deal, schumer put $20 billion on the table and they said no, does this president really want to build the wall or do they want to retain that as an issue and say democrats wouldn't let us build this wall. >> it seems remarkable to me, in some ways a sign of the pressure chuck schumer is under he has been willing to publicly go out and say i'll bui...

The expectation was that the affordable care act, not perfect but a step forward providing insurance to millions of americans was going to be on the chopping block in january. here we are in november and millions of americans still have insurance, we need to address the issues, address the problems, stabilize the markets, as a group i'm a part of called the problem solvers caucus has put forward ideas to do that, but i think the broad democratic message is that we're fighting for all americans for working americans to have the opportunity that our parents and grandparents sacrificed to give us...

Reaffirmed that commitment yesterday in our meetings. i will tell you, it's not just about the wall, it's about border security and it's about moving the ball forward for the dreamers at the same time. if this takes multiple step, that's what the legislative process is about. don't declare it a defeat. that's a win. it's a win for the american people. >> congressman schrader, really quickly, i know you're part of the problem solvers caucus, but the wall, really? >> yes, that's not going to happen. all due respect to my friend here. if they want to talk about that -- >> maybe that goes back on ...

Depending on the market, there are lots of reasons and it's complicated about why they're destabilized, why people are leaving, why they don't have enough choice. one of the opponents are the matching payments, the support payments from the federal government. the president's mere suggestion that he might not follow through with those, to the extent he could stop them, shook a lot of providers and made them think about raising their rates. what are you going to do about that? >> i'm part of the group in congress called the problem solvers caucus. we have come up with a bipartisan plan, 43 memb...