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This is an illegal war. your lives, your limbs, your -- i urge the russian people and the russian soldiers in ukraine to understand the propaganda and the disinformation that you're being told. >> arnold schwarzenegger trying to break through russia's digital iron curtain. joining us two journalists writing about russians for a decade, david remnick and masha gessen who has a piece in today's new yorker called "the scattering." david, let me start with you because i want to get your reaction to that video from arnold schwarzenegger who has a huge following in russia, in fact, one of only 22 ac...
Gs this is an illegal war. your lives, your limbs, your -- futures have been sacrificed for the entire world. i urge the russian people and the russian soldiers in ukraine to understand the propaganda and the disinformation that you're being told. >> arnold schwarzenegger trying to break through russia's digital iron curtain. joining us two journalists writing about russians for decades, david remnick and masha gessen who has a piece in today's new yorker called "the scattering." david, let me start with you because i want to get your reaction to that video from arnold schwarzenegger who has...
Masha has written so brilliantly about it this week that a couple hundred thousand people, some of the best and the brightest, have fled moscow to new lives because of their fear of being arrested and their ordinary lives being eradicated or their being thrown in prison. computer programmers, journalists, authors, college professors, all kinds of people. now, this tends to be -- tends to be urban middle class people, st. peter's burring, moscow and other cities in an enormous country, but to see that kind of flood indicates some level, at least you get some indication of the fear and the sense...