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agreement. that was no legal settlement. and so when i was first questioned about this on the day that the story broke from "politico", i interpreted it as a settlement to mean "legal," and i knew there were not a legal settlement, the words we use in business are "agreement." >>neil: but later there was a settlement? >>guest: no. >>neil: but money was exchanged not from you personally but from the association. >>guest: the agreement as i recall there was some sort of severance agreement and some sort severance amount. i never --. >>neil: and you were head of the association and knew nothing? >>guest: no, it was a routine personally matter. >>neil: but you are the big cheese? >>guest: but the big cheese is not involved unless they are over a certain amount and because of the amount that was dealt with, the general counsel, of the sew, with our human resources they put that together and they executed it.