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We've gone from it's doable, it's not doable, there's -- we could do it and i can see how we can make it happen, and then all of a sudden we get new information and then it's like i don't know how we're going to make this happen. >> but for now mohamed the rascal and ahmed the philosopher are blissfully ignorant of all the weighty opinions around them, playing new games with their nurses. watched over by nasser, apparently in no danger at all, no closer to surgery. but a little closer to the man who would decide their fate. how long did it take to become attached to these two? >> not long. and...

>> the fbi has not talked about the details, but we have learned more details, and in fact, this morning we talked to a young man who works at one of the retail outlets here in the mall, and he talked about those propane tanks that the fbi says that there were two propane tanks and a pipe bomb. i want to show you what the propane tanks are, but they are more like canisters, the small one, and listen to what the individual said ant what he saw near the food court when he noticed the fire and then saw these tanks. >> i saw one of these, and maybe two, sitting on the panel, itself. and, you know,...