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With social security and medicare in this country? >> i don't think it could be done with the stroke of a pen and i don't think there is a consensus for it. but, in my world, where the government lives within the confines of the constitution, people are responsible for themselves. it's not the beltway world where you live. people don't look to the federal government to take care of them. >> i think the voters would go crazy. the two of have you abandoned the whole notion of conservatism tonight. >> you have abandoned the notion that the constitution means what it says. >> okay. >> we have more...

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>> he's not taking responsibility. this is about shifting responsibility. if he were taking responsibility he would say i did a lot of stuff. i had two years of this massive liberal ageneral day passed through and judge me on my results. he won't say that because he knows what the verdict would be. megyn: i'll give you the last word simon. >> i think it's clear that he'sr understands. that if the economy is doing badly he won't get reelected. >> he said that a year or two ago, he's not saying it any more. megyn: rich, simon was getting the last word. >> i love the set, megyn. megyn: thank you ...