That. since the beginning of time. so people want this to be real. this guy sounds reputable, but he is relying on other witnesses. he hasn't seen anything, so i don't buy it. whatever exists exists outside of our time and space, i believe, and maybe when we see things, it could be like little glitches, may be a system, you know, that you get on your computer, little weird things, it could be little system updates, beep, beep, beep. but there are no aliens. >> jeanine: all right, jesse, woo-woo. the whistle-blower claims there is an arms race where people who can discover, collect those ufo ob...