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And then even broader and sort of being missed is big geopolitical concerns. that the president was endangering the status of ukraine and zelensky s new position in order to enact and protect them from russian invasion. having someone like mick mulvaney is really important. at the same time, he might not be as forth coming as some of these career officials who are who don t have partisan motivations, have a lot of experience with bureaucracy and the way things work and don t have a dog in this fight, per se, other than being motivated by public service and doing what s right for the country. shermichael, quickly, are you surprised that hasn t been more resonant with republicans on the hill? i go back to that lee zeldin quotation. not the substance but the process. so much of that testimony centered on what jackie has described. right. ....

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