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bratwurst and some miller. >> may overshadow the actual candidate. >> i had that problem. >> when john mccain appointed sarah palin as well there were huge crowds, much of the same kind of reaction, and i don't think it worked out fairly well. >> you bet you. >> all right. let's get to our political panel. joy reid is an msnbc contributor and managing editor, jonathan capehart is an opinion writer for "the washington post" and a democratic strategist. thanks for being with me, guys. jonathan, just two days after romney tapped ryan, you wrote today, quote, the youthful, telegenic ryan is shadowing the top of the ticket. if that's already the case, how long is it going to be before paul ryan, like sarah palin, draws bigger crowds than governor romney?

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