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Here. it's almost a joke. it's not a joke because we take it seriously, but this thing is not a bomb. it doesn't have the components of a bomb. no bomber makes a bomb out of pvc pipe because it doesn't restrict the explosion and cause it to accelerate and the hurt people. it looks more like a movie prop. the whole thing is designed for theater t it's like a fire bug who sets a fire so he can see the fire trucks coming, or someone is messaging. i think that's what we're going to find out once the fbi and the nypd resolve this thing. >> laura: i was talking to a friend of mine on israeli message...

We will go the where they degrade the capabilities of the enemy. >> and now sh, joining me is th representative are from colorado who was there at the hearings, and are you satisfied by what you heard from the chairman of the joint chiefs? >> well, i think that we are moving in the right direction, and the notion of putting the special op erators in theater t take out the high-value targets is positive. going after the revenue sources such as oil tankers or trucks, it is positive. we could still be more aggressive in pursuing that the oil infrastructure which fuels isis and the local e e on co...