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And that we should just kill ourselves. >> the young women there tells us she and her friend moved to the back of the train to get away. but then a stranger steps in. he defends them and says to the men yao can't disrespect these young ladies like that. more strangers step this. that is when the knife comes out. the suspect starts to stab. right there in broad daylight on a train in america. one of the girls says she just heard arguing, fighting, then saw blood everywhere. two of those hee e rows didn't survive. they died defending strangers. one, a military veteran, father of four. the other,...

And the state system started doing it as well. >> it is known as a prison industrial complex. people bhor making money often of prisons and incarcerating them. what was it like when you were in there? your freedoms compared to the guys who escaped? wz it any different than thee e these guys? >> when i was there, it was news to me. it progressively got worse. each prison is sort of like a dictator of his own country. he has to create this balancing act where he allows the prisoners to run their own prison while trying to maintain overall control of the institution. and that's not an easy bala...

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It was senator mccain said we need 3,000 national guardmen on the border, they probably do. because they need to do something to stop it there. or else they wind up with the draconian laws which may be signed by thee e governor. >> bret: the frustration in arizona is real and the problem is real and the state acts as a state -- >> look, i understand. i understand what they're doing. i just don't think it's the right solution. true washington won't do anything on immigration. there is talk but not a majority in either house, not bipartisan majority in either house to do anything on it this year...