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The senate as well. i'm one who doesn't like to use my vote for thelesser of -- the lesser of evils. i want to be proactive in who i think could do the job. >> all right. so she's kind of making reference to joe manchin and a possible third party run. kevin, i may not hear all the time that america is a center right country. i mean, there are a lot of ways to get slightly right of center. you can actually be there, or you can have the two extremes pull as hard as they possibly can, which seems like what we're doing right now. i just -- i don't see a large group of moderate voters looking like ...

To me on alaskan issues but in the senate as well. i'm one who doesn't like to use my vote for thelesser of -- the lesser of evils. i want to be proactive in who i think could do the job. >> all right. so she's kind of making reference to joe manchin and a possible third party run. kevin, i may not hear all the time that america is a center right country. i mean, there are a lot of ways to get slightly right of center. you can actually be there, or you can have the two extremes pull as hard as they possibly can, which seems like what we're doing right now. i just -- i don't see a large group o...