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Liberals that are big supporters and say you know what, that's going too far. are you stirring the language with that? >> anarchist. that's why we have members of congress over there today and yesterday saying finally we're able to close the government. what else did i call them? >> the weird caucus. >> that's probably a little over the hill. >> so i mean, do you think -- are you pledging to tone down the rhetoric? >> i won't give up on anarchist. that's what it is. they don't believe in government. that's why they want the government closed. this is not pitter pat being, see how nice you can ...

In november at the appropriate time. >> tell me this, it's not helpful, if someone like harry reed, such a high ranking person in all this, uses praises like there are anarchist, weirdos, it's not designed i don't think to bring people to a negotiating table. >> there is always a lot of back and forth. if we rolled the tape of some of the things the other side says about our side or about the president, which is even, even worse than you hear even for washington is bad. look, i think most americans can see through that. they know there is two facts, a bill on the floor that can be passed tomor...

Liberals that are big supporters and say you know what, that's going too far. are you stirring the language with that? >> anarchist. that's why we have members of congress over there today and yesterday saying finally we're able to close the government. what else did i call them? >> the weird caucus. >> that's probably a little over the hill. >> so i mean, do you think -- are you pledging to tone down the rhetoric? >> i won't give up on anarchist. that's what it is. they don't believe in government. that's why they want the government closed. this is not pitter pat being, see how nice you can ...

Through the debt ceiling crisis and have a debate and loud arguments what should be in a longer term budget but do that in november at the appropriate time. >> tell me this, it's not helpful, if someone like harry reed, such a high ranking person in all this, uses praises like there are anarchist, weirdos, it's not designed i don't think to bring people to a negotiating table. >> there is always a lot of back and forth. if we rolled the tape of some of the things the other side says about our side or about the president, which is even, even worse than you hear even for washington is bad. look,...

What is the practical reality of how to get out of this ridiculous situation? >> i object to bickering and squabbling. >> when you hear harry reid call them anarchist -- >> what i would say is both sides have miscalculations -- >> you think? obamacare is a law. >> laws can always be changed but the point is -- >> you shutdown the government because you want to change parts of established law? >> the republicans made a miscalculations by raising the issue of defunding obamacare. it polled poorly. voters didn't want it. delay obamacare polls better. i think that would have been a foolish thing -...