There have been plenty of government studies that say voter fraud is just a fantasy. what are the arguments out there that are going to convince the court? i guess what is it you need to convince the court of, you believe? >> we certainly hope to convince the court that this law will have a disproportionate impact on african-americans. in 2008 and 2012, 7.8 million people voted. one case of voter impersonation. and in fact, the elections director even said that she really had no knowledge of any type of voter impersonation. and so we believe that this law was really put in effect to really dis...