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Blocks down, we separated and went our own ways. and i did what i had to do, take hostages, to get me through a police checkpoint. let them go, alive, after i got through. and we met back up in california. >> what i didn't know is they were already under fbi surveillance when i got there. the guy jumped out. he had a shotgun. pulled my gun. if i didn't see all them guys in black from behind -- i looked up, i was looking at about ten submachine guns. well, might have to re-evaluate this, you know. laid the gun down. >> jimmy has only been back at pnm for a few days, after being away nearly two ...

I did what i had to do. take hostages, get me through the police checkpoint. let them go, alive, after i got through. and we met back up in california. >> what i didn't know is they were already under fbi surveillance when i got there. the guy jumped out. he had a shotgun. pulled my gun. if i didn't see all them guys in black from behind -- i looked up, i was looking at about ten submachine guns. well, might have to re-evaluate this, you know. laid the gun down. >> jimmy has only been back at pnm for a few days, after being away nearly two decades, and he's already butting heads with staff. >>...

Real. he let the rest of us out. so, we went out the roof escape hatch, and, you know, then used the alarm wires to help us stay balanced on top of the wall partition that went out to the sallyport. >> what happened is we didn't have the razor wire here. the gate wasn't here. inmates were able to walk this wall right on top. go over the fence and go down. >> make a mad sprint across the parking lot, and hopefully we wouldn't be at shot at, you know, from the tower. >> during that summer months, we would assign an officer to the tower until 8:00. so, there was nobody in the towers which gave th...

welcome, everybody. our "starting point" is this breaking news. two american tourists have been kidnapped in dahab, egypt, in the sinai region. the kidnappers, it appears, are trying to negotiate some sort of prisoner exchange. jill daugherty joins us. what do we know? >> the state department is in touch with the families of these two people. names have not been given. they're 31 years old. the state department is providing counselor services and they are in touch and working very closely with egyptian authorities to try to resolve this. essentially, what happened, these two people, ...

Period, then you have to legally go in front of the court and that was the judge there larry moriarty here with his quote after he put her in jail for 24 hours along apparently with murderers, prostitutes, etc. if you let one run loose, what are you going to do with the rest of them? let them go, too? so his whole point was that he wanted to set her as an example for other kids but did this cross the line based on the circumstances? and is this yet another part of our p.c. culture where we just put these big laws and everyone is supposed to fit into the same box instead of looking at each indi...