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We can save lives if we just do what we all agree, including gun owners, agree should be done. >> do you feel -- making the case that policy makes a dimpblsz is a -- actually contested and emotional point to me. we all look at -- i mean, we're all looking for something that's going to be an easy solution to a complicated problem. and there's so many things about potential fix to the gun laws that would not have stopped this particular crime, for example, the way that these particular guns were attained, the fact that this young man seems to have gotten them from his mother and had them all lic...