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League who basically stood up against the president after he called them sons of pitches. jesse: is that why the players were kneeling? >> i talked to several players. i'm telling you what their intentions were. when you look at these players, most of which aren't even kneeling, they are praying. this was a contentious situation. and remember these men are from neighborhoods where they are representing communities and people. so we are now as a nation telling them what they are standing for. and i don't think that's right. jesse: everybody knows you stand for the anthem to pay respect for the ...

Against the president after he called them sons of pitches. jesse: is that why the players were kneeling? >> i talked to several players. i'm telling you what their intentions were. when you look at these players, most of which aren't even kneeling, they are praying. this was a contentious situation. and remember these men are from neighborhoods where they are representing communities and people. so we are now as a nation telling them what they are standing for. and i don't think that's right. jesse: everybody knows you stand for the anthem to pay respect for the service members who died defen...

Against the president after he called them sons of pitches. jesse: is that why the players were kneeling? >> i talked to several players. i'm telling you what their intentions were. when you look at these players, most of which aren't even kneeling, they are praying. this was a contentious situation. and remember these men are from neighborhoods where they are representing communities and people. so we are now as a nation telling them what they are standing for. and i don't think that's right. jesse: everybody knows you stand for the anthem to pay respect for the service members who died defen...

They don't want to touch a story like this. it inflames passions and doesn't fit the narrative. >> i think we have been numbed by mass shootings. the fact this gunman was neutralized that someone with a gun was able to hold him until the authorities came. the narrative didn't fit deet sired script many media outlets have, and that is to divide the country. remember dillon roof. for weeks afterwards his life and backgrounds was covered. and it was discovered he had a confederate flag in his home. the medial attention was so great that confederate flags were taken out of south carolina. and the ...

It was the british shelling if fort mchenry when francis scott key saw them shelling the flag. jesse: they are 25-year-old guys making a lot of money. do you think they even understood what was going on at that moment? do you think they got that? >> of course they don't. i would say we should take some of these young men and send them to kandahar, afghanistan. and some of these places in combat zones and forward operating bases and have them stand with those soldiers and get them to explain what the american flag means to them. when "the national anthem" is played and people are watching