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They haven't had the years yet. they have been paid a lot of money early on. let's give them the benefit of the doubt and listen to what they are saying. when you look at that patriot's tape, and ray lewis. they are on their knees in prayer. they love the military. think about any time there is a crisis in this country, any time we have a war, anything that happens in this country, the national football league and its players are standing there to help rally this country. we have to change the narrative to bring people back together. the flag and the anthem is not the way to do it. jesse: i ag...

Like this. it inflames passions and doesn't fit the narrative. >> i think we have been numbed by mass shootings. the fact this gunman was neutralized that someone with a gun was able to hold him until the authorities came. the narrative didn't fit deet sired script many media outlets have, and that is to divide the country. remember dillon roof. for weeks afterwards his life and backgrounds was covered. and it was discovered he had a confederate flag in his home. the medial attention was so great that confederate flags were taken out of south carolina. and the dukes of hazards was

It was the british shelling if fort mchenry when francis scott key saw them shelling the flag. jesse: they are 25-year-old guys making a lot of money. do you think they even understood what was going on at that moment? do you think they got that? >> of course they don't. i would say we should take some of these young men and send them to kandahar, afghanistan. and some of these places in combat zones and forward operating bases and have them stand with those soldiers and get them to explain what the american flag means to them. when "the national anthem" is played and people are watching

It was the british shelling if fort mchenry when francis scott key saw them shelling the flag. jesse: they are 25-year-old guys making a lot of money. do you think they even understood what was going on at that moment? do you think they got that? >> of course they don't. i would say we should take some of these young men and send them to kandahar, afghanistan. and some of these places in combat zones and forward operating bases and have them stand with those soldiers and get them to explain what the american flag means to them. when "the national anthem" is played and people are watching footb...

They haven't had the years yet. they have been paid a lot of money early on. let's give them the benefit of the doubt and listen to what they are saying. when you look at that patriot's tape, and ray lewis. they are on their knees in prayer. they love the military. think about any time there is a crisis in this country, any time we have a war, anything that happens in this country, the national football league and its players are standing there to help rally this country. we have to change the narrative to bring people back together. the flag and the anthem is not the way to do it. jesse: i ag...