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hutchinson testifying that lead white house counsel pat cipollone warned of legal exposure if trump followed his supporters to the capitol. >> we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we let mat move happen. >> do you remember what crimes mr. scipollone was concerned about? >> we had conversations about potentially ubstrucking justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> hutchinson relaying a second hand account about a defiant trump who wanted to go to the capitol anyway, allegedly even attacking the leader of his secret service detail while in the presidential mot...

Pull he has on these far-right candidates. this is a guy who was actually more a democrat a few years ago than a republican, but they just can't resist the lure of donald trump or the lure of obama the other, obama the alien, whether it's birtherism, or it's the fact that he doesn't like this country, he's not truly an american. they just can't let that theme go, because it's just too powerful for too much of their base. >> you know, what's really humiliating here is a guy who's elected by the people of texas, for whatever you think of his politics, he's an elected official of a major state. h...

Things, other conspiracy theories about the war in libya. so i don't know what magnetic pull he has on these far-right candidates. this is a guy who was actually more a democrat a few years ago than a republican, but they just can't resist the lure of donald trump or the lure of obama the other, obama the alien, whether it's birtherism, or it's the fact that he doesn't like this country, he's not truly an american. they just can't let that theme go, because it's just too powerful for too much of their base. >> you know, what's really humiliating here is a guy who's elected by the people of tex...

So i don't know what magnetic pull he has on these far-right candidates. this is a guy who was actually more a democrat a few years ago than a republican, but they just can't resist the lure of donald trump or the lure of obama the other, obama the alien, whether it's birtherism, or it's the fact that he doesn't like this country, he's not truly an american. they just can't let that theme go, because it's just too powerful for too much of their base. >> you know, what's really humiliating here is a guy who's elected by the people of texas, for whatever you think of his politics, he's an electe...