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Qualified immunity. >> how much more effective is that very simple stated goal opposed to defund the police? in politics, you know, the loudest people aren't always the most effective, right? in fact, they're usually not. they're usually the least effective in getting done what they want to get done. but they're most effective in, you know, altering theout come of a certain event. what we saw in this election is, i believe, the left was effective in pushing out a message that was based really on emotion and anger and not to your point, strategically trying to get people behind them. >> i think...
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