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Nominee. what about the argument out there, heidi heitkamp, joe manchin, for example, you change this nominee, we may get a more conservative nominee behind gorsuch. >> you won't get the votes, then. at the end of the day, gorsuch has had committee votes, he's had hearings, he got to testify. that never happened with merrick garland. merrick garland never got so much as an opportunity to sit before a bunch of senators in front of the american public. he was a consensus candidate. he was someone chosen largely because of his record in securing republican votes for his lower court appointments. ...