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Bunch of crazy thing and the media is paying attention to it. what's going on at the white house? >> i think rudy is loving this moment in the sun. he loves the idea of just defending the president in this full throated way, in a way he knows trump for the most part probably likes, right? these guys are about the same age. they've known each other in new york politics for a long time. they have a sort of similar wavelength. i think he realizes he can get away with a lot. and it might cause, you know, white house aides to roll their eyes and us in the media and the pundits to sort of be outrage...

That? that's going to be the question here. >> what's next? >> i was just in the greenroom and i was just with a whole bunch of reporters. and to assume by association that i was leaking secure material would be outrageous. reporters are all over the hill. and i don't know if he has a relationship with her, but somebody said he may have. and if he does, he would be expected to be with her. >> i've got to run. perfect team to talk about this. i appreciate it. we'll be right back. than ever b. and american express has your back every step of the way- whether it's the comfort of knowing help is j...

Him and he acknowledges an interview with her. >> let me put up the quote here. you're right he said he had not interviewed. >> this is difficult enough for her. my heart goes out to her or any woman in that situation. and i think let her speak for herself. and if she doesn't want to talk about it, which she clearly doesn't, then don't talk about it. clearly giuliani needs to put blinders on and focus at the task at hand and leave everything else to the experts. >> here's a quote what he told dana, if we can put that up on the screen. yes, i believe that she knows him well enough to know this ...

Go after the reporter's records? was there any other way to do that? that's going to be the question here. >> what's next? >> i was just in the greenroom and i was just with a whole bunch of reporters. and to assume by association that i was leaking secure material would be outrageous. reporters are all over the hill. and i don't know if he has a relationship with her, but somebody said he may have. and if he does, he would be expected to be with her. >> i've got to run. perfect team to talk about this. i appreciate it. we'll be right back.

My heart goes out to her or any woman in that situation. and i think let her speak for herself. and if she doesn't want to talk about it, which she clearly doesn't, then don't talk about it. clearly giuliani needs to put blinders on and focus at the task at hand and leave everything else to the experts. >> here's a quote what he told dana, if we can put that up on the screen. yes, i believe that she knows him well enough to know this one is, what's the word, f -- could realize the president has realized this becomes a distraction so he just allows him to do it. not that it's a strategy. he's o...