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I think in many ways on the goals they had a lot of the same goals where jamal khashoggi disagreed with the crowned prince was about the process. and khashoggi said you have to have a bottom up process. there has to be discussion and contention and you have to have disagreements and that will get you to the right place. and in his view, the crowned prince said i will decide what we will do and everybody will too it and there wasn't a difference, i think more than about 10% on the destination. there was a difference about the process of getting to that destination. >> shepard: he mbs for reform...

Called george stephanopoulos a tiny little man. have to acknowledge there's a difference. >> david: i didn't say there wasn't a difference. come out with the speech, make it sound as if it's true -- >> chris: i want to make this clear. i love you. before i shoot you down. the president lies even when he quotes himself. the biggest controversy over his speeches. he made me miss seinfeld because he went late last night. i've seen everyone 25 times. but he yada-yada-ed. >> david: here is what i will suggest to you. i will email you a transcript of what he said when i came to charlottesville and y...