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Say what we've seen in afghanistan on the ground over the course of the last week was a success, i think, or was a triumph in my way. i think it was perfectly legitimate for journalists who were there to report on the chaos that we saw and journalists who were here to question how the white house has responding to that. the white house obviously doesn't want to talk about a mission that has been beset by problems. i think it would be difficult for anyone in the white house to say that there weren't problems, even the president himself has said this is difficult and the scenes were heart wrench...

>> laura: ginsberg -- would be doing aerobics at that point, right? is it just you're worried about trump, is he going to get another pick? >> this is something that even before trump got into the white house, that people seemed to be increasing their support for. >> laura: msnbc john pierre admits this wouldn't be happening if there weren't problems on the horizon for the democrats. let's watch. >> clinton, her loss, winning three million more votes for the popular vote clearly and losing the electoral college, absolutely puts this issue in kind of the forefront. >> laura: i mean, come on. if...

Trump, is he going to get another pick? >> this is something that even before trump got into the white house, that people seemed to be increasing their support for. >> laura: msnbc john pierre admits this wouldn't be happening if there weren't problems on the horizon for the democrats. let's watch. >> clinton, her loss, winning three million more votes for the popular vote clearly and losing the electoral college, absolutely puts this issue in kind of the forefront. >> laura: i mean, come on. if people crossing the border were raging conservatives the democrats would be the first ones, we need...