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Everybody, on the notion that when the information came out there was a tape that it was not michael cohen that would have put that out but the trump side. you hit that head-on. the suggestion, that's happening now. not michael cohen but somehow put out by donald trump's side. i understood in the first instance why the trump people would have wanted to get ahead of a tape and try to contextualize it, spin it, set it up that they knew it would come out anyway. what is, a., do you think this is the trump people for sure who put it out. number one. and two, the new information, this is different....

Most lawyers tell you if you're under investigation don't talk about it. especially under investigation for obstruction, you really shouldn't talk about it, but he has continued to do that. if you look at the 49 questions mueller wants to ask trump about, several of them are just about his public statements. what was he saying publicly? >> we talk about this case. funny, somebody said on the set several months ago watergate had to comb clue fithrough and find tapes, with president trump, an interview with lester holt broadcast to 10 million people. >> right. makes potential for the appreciate ...

Operations, often inexperienced -- people have to start some place. they're often young. you can make a mistake like this. sometimes the people who be most vulnerable are actually people who are older. john podesta, for example, fell victim to this whereas other staffers didn't. >> think about congressional campaigns. a lot of these campaigns, not like they have an i.t. department and their security amounts to a mcafee anti-virus heavy installed in their computers. they're not running with the he of vigilance or technical sophistication of a presidential campaign and not just congress' campaig...

Robert mueller asks you this question if he does. your answer can be, did you hear donald trump say that and donald trump jr. say that to donald trump your answer is yes, no or i don't recall. so one reason on the giuliani side of this case why you might want this out there is it is now extremely difficult for the trump-giuliani side of the case to communicate directly to all the other witnesses who could have been in that room. so getting this out there is saying to them, you have to make a decision on your answer. is it yes, no or i don't recall. it's warning them. and the more of them who k...

Long time now. is this the kind of thing on the base of the totality of your reporting, does it strike you as plausible that such a meeting could be occurring in trump tower, and that donald trump would be publicly touting the notion there's new information coming out about hillary clinton in days, we know that's in the public record, is this the kind of meeting that's going to likely that donald trump would not have any inkling of in this moment? >> seems if there was any currency in trump world, if there s-it's providing donald trump with information, with telling him how you're helping him,...