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Together, there's a problem with that. and you know, that doesn't mean that we can't have sincere disagreements on thetheological issues but once the issues are stated we have to find ways to come together to talk about the points we have in common, to talk about the love we have for one another, for straight folks, for gay folks, for our entire country. i think the faith community has got to, again, to focus more on the things that we have in common rather than the things that divide us. now, fortunately there are a lot of christians that do focus on those points of commonality but they're no...

Versed in the scriptures and indeed uses them a lot and has done with the president, what do you say to those people who use the bible and its scriptures as a sacrosanct defense, if you like, against moving times? >> you know, it's something that i think we have to grapple with because on the one hand as you highlight, piers, there are verses in the old testament and the new from deuteronomy to the apostle paul that speak to issues related to homosexuality. on the other hand, jesus said that the two greatest commandments are to love god and to love your neighbor and to let that spirit of love ...

More for what they're for rather than what they're against. i was able to see that first-hand in private ways, in the way the president received devotionals and spent time in prayer with pastors around the country but also in public ways, in the way his faith motivated his approach to issues in public life from compassionate immigration reform to issues related to gun violence. it was really an honor to have that front row seat to the president's values. >> the president has described the newtown atrocity as one of the biggest tests of his presidency for him personally. you went down to newtow...