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Cooper. it had not been done by may because i was asked to raise a specific issue that would meet theue conditionality. >> they did meet the certification? >> i think itet may have been i the july time frame. >> thank you. >> so, it's interesting and curious that we're talking about hearsay evidence. it's extraordinary to me that the committee has been able to get as much information they had as much direct or hearsay given the obstruction. you gentlemen were both asked by the state department not to appear for your depositions, is that correct? >> we both received, i believe i received initia...