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Know so well, you do think there will be not a veto proof, number of republicans to add to the democratic vote, but significant republican vote saying no-no no this is unconstitutional we can't do this? >> sure. and you'll see both sides of the conference. moderate members ended up losing in the last election but there are still some. and folks like justin a march freedom saying for constitutional reasons if you believe the president needs to be bound by congress, you should believe that whether you are dealing with republican or democrat presidents. so you'll have voices on both sides. but i ...

Their objectives for this process. >> so to continue the score analogy, which is sometimes dangerous, what does the president need? what does secretary pompeo need to cha that? if kim leaves with a healthy lead in deliverables, which he has -- there is no question about that -- there is n wrong with that if you get what you want later in the protscess. what is that? >> in the short term, it's the v word, which is verification. that was as basic as it got going back to ronald reagan, obviously with the sovunion, and even before that. that is something that you can bet is going to be required if...