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that s correct. because that would be suggestive, correct? that s correct. and so the jury understands, in other words, you don t want somebody potentially making a decision based on what they seen on tv of the photograph or the voice i.d., versus actually listening to it without having watched anything on tv about the case? yes, sir. okay. thank you very much, sir. thank you. any re-direct? please. just so we re clear, on this case, the issue of who was screaming for help on the tape was still an issue that you as the agency investigating the case was looking into, correct? we had the evidence and testimony that we had gave us an indication of whose voice it was screaming for help on the tape, but any other witnesses that we could try to corroborate, that would be beneficial in trying to find the truth. and the indications that you ....
Of that? in my position, my contract was with the city manager. okay. all right. and the recording itself was played in the mayor s office, correct? yes, sir, that s correct. and you weren t i apologize, did i interrupt you? no. did you finish answering? i did. and you were not present when the recording was played, correct? i was not present in the map mayor s office? you were in the same building, but not in the mayor s office when that was played, is that correct? yes, sir. so you were asked about the lineup, and just so the jury knows, if case they haven t heard of a lineup, you don t want to have normally a lineup includes six photographs, right? yes, sir. and you have a person look at the lineup and then identify if they know one of the individuals that did something to them or was a witness or whatever, is that correct? that s correct. what you don t want to do is show them a photograph, just one by itself, correct? that s correct. also, i ....
Case, is the best practice in this case, would the best practice have been to allow once your decision was made to have them listen to the tape, would the best police practices have suggested that you let each family member listen to it individually, and get their statement as to what they heard? if it was for investigative purposes to let those the person that was going to listen to it, listen to it individually, so that you could get their response without influence. and so you would avoid the influence of having them all listen to it at one time, correct? yes, sir. and would you agree that in an emotional circumstance, such as this one would be, that the possibility for influence is even greater? it s possible, yes, sir. now, you had said that it was a city manager, in response to a ....
Department should be on trial right along with mr. zimmerman. but one more thing, martin. for all this talk about the voices and all this testimony about identifying voices, it seems really strange to me that the judge didn t allow any of the experts to come in, even if the technology is flawed. even if you can t make it an exact sort of assessment of the voices, the fact that we re now hinging part of this case on random folk who don t have any training, who don t use any of this technology, to identify this voice, it just makes sense to me that we would have allowed that additional information into the trials of the jury, so they can make a better informed decision about this particular hinge point of the case. karen, why do you think that is? professor peterson makes an important point there. and that is that people who are related to each other are perhaps bound to say they hear the voice of their relative. that s why we needed some kind of independent science, as it were, around ....
when did that end? june 22nd, 2013. 2012, i m sorry. thank you. were you then chief of police during the initial investigation stages of the case that brings us here today, state versus george zimmerman? yes, sir. if you would, just tell the jury a little bit about your background in law enforcement. i ve 30 years of law enforcement experience. i started at the seminole county sheriff s office as road patrol deputy in 1982. i was promoted through the ranks to the position of captain. i retired in 2009, at that rank of captain, and charged with our special operations division and emergency services division. nine years of that to experience was in investigations, five years as an investigator, four as a supervisor. ....