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It ebbs and flows over time. the trends are definitely down. >> but it's also spring and that's when you have -- spikes in immigration during this spring. >> the crisis at the border is not even an immigration crisis, that's a humanitarian crisis. >> they have presented it as an invasion. people swarming over the boarder to threaten society. where it's not that. they have shifted that whole story. >> and the conventional argument doesn't work. >> this says something about what's being signaled from the republican party. there's a great quote on twitter. when you hear kirsten nielson saying i a...

Department list of state sponsors of terrorism, the other four designated being terrorist safe havens so there's going to be legal challenges and advocacy groups are promising to do that, saying that his real thrust here is to go after muslims, but they'ring will very careful about which countries they select so they can draw the direct line to terrorism, so that they have a national security defense and end up holding it. >> kristen the whole debate over refugees from syria, the state department pointed out the united states takes a little over 12,000 syrian refugees after they've been vetted...

>> especially at this point, they pick people they think will keep them safe and help them get back to work. >> look whatever you want to say about the clintons there is a body of work that i think people look to and people have expectations for the kind of leadership that they would offer. they base the kind of leadership which is similar to what they'ring building her leadership qualities is based on the president's. he was moderate, he governed from the middle, he remains immensely popular even today things that he did eight years in office. >> what was bill clinton's landmark achievement w...

Over the last several days they've moved very quickly. they have some good organization, some good leadership. i'm impressed with their ability to take the fight. >> a big concern which is what would happen after the forces were able to take it back from isis the thought of fighting ethnic cleansing, shia versus sunni and all that ethnic cleansing that goes along with that. you say you don't see that concern on the ground. why? >> chris, not right now. i see a lot of people have been banging that drum for months about it. right now both shia, sunni, iraqis that's all they have one common enemy...

Ads involve guns it seems in our politics lately. what does it say, robert, that you -- we've had rand paul on the early presidential primary making a name by going after surveil llance and drones. saying this is your government. your government is doing this and firing a weapon. >> it's amazing. when i'm out on the campaign trail, they'ring looking more at rand paul's decisions and policies rather than the republican national committee. rand paul, position on nsa and drones, he's setting a new paradigm for the gop candidates. >> you get attention. i often go back to susanna martinez when run ...