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Given his conduct of the clinton e-mail investigation, but i have profound concerns about a president who is so deeply conflicted in terms of his interests making this kind of a judgment. >> back to my question. do you think that he was going to do a good job of investigating the russian deal -- comey? did you have faith in him to do that? >> i think that one of the s impacts of the house investigation was providing oversight to make sure the direor and the fbi were taking this matter seriously. i had more confidence that was happening after our open hearing than i did before. nonetheless, it ...

How do you gauge the impact of the exchange on the campaign? is it easy to move past this one as we've seen with the other apparent missteps? >> you know, i think he is teflon don for now. i don't think it affects him because most americans don't know the difference. so overall i think that he's been able to turn it around on the question or turn it around on hugh hewitt. but will it last? if there is a series of these type of interviews and maybe it affects his poll numbers. he is trieding this wave. it doesn't matter whether he says john mccain is a war hero or not. >> two items worth noting...