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Lviv, where my colleague cal perry is right now, and we met her as she crossed the border here into poland. and she told me she feels immense guilt for being here, for being safe, while so many others in her home country are not. and she wondered what it would be like to go back home, what's her home would look like. her biggest fear, michael, this is that ukraine -- will be ruled by putin. she said she will not go back to ukraine that was under putin's control. amid all of that though, she's grateful for the generosity of the, polish people. take a listen to what she told me about this. >> th...

Kind of effect that will get us to a place of more civility, instead of which we are seeing today. >> michelle, i wanna get your thoughts, in the little bit of time we have left as well. partly about the chilling effect, when you're looking at the impact on the lawyers who would be coming through the judges through this process, and what you do working with those lawyers and judges, what is your take there? >> michael, i'm so glad you asked this question, because there's also a chilling effect amongst those who represent people who are defendant. the fact that she was asked over and over again...

The message on this very clear, hitting just before and after president biden spoke. and the ability by russians to say they can strike deep into the western part of this country. the western part of this country, that of course, is where we are seeing the support flowing eastward, be that non lethal aid, or lethal aid, it is the place where nato countries are starting to on the eastern part of the country. the other concern here michael, will sort of keep on our eye on this thing as it comes up. there was concern amongst eight organizations that the 300,000 refugees who had taken shelter temp...

Seeing each of our european allies and the united states really step up. >> panel, stick around, we have a lot more to talk about. still ahead, trump claimed he had a secret plan to end the crisis in ukraine, but now that he's given us the details, he probably should've, well, kept it under wraps. first, richard louis here with the headlines. hey richard. >> hi michael, very good evening to. you some of the stories we are watching for you first. breaking news, congressman jeff bright from nebraska has resigned after being found guilty of lying to the fbi. the republican was convicted this week...

Michigan law school. barbara, i have to partner for you, first, could ginni thomas be in any legal trouble? and second, does the january six committee have a case to subpoena her? >> so, i think the answer is yes and yes. when you say, in any trouble. i don't know if she faces legal representations, not at this stage. but this really feels like an invitation to a subpoena, doesn't? it they want to find out everything that happened relating to the events of january six. issue was, there someone was putting a lot of pressure on the white house, mark meadows. i think that we want to see the rest ...