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Potentially narrow window for the opponents to still to try to stop it. bruce bartlett, former deputy assistant secretary for policy under george w. bush, and author of the truth of the matter. jess macintosh, senior adviser to the hillary clinton presidential campaign there is a little bit of drama today as the house voted to send this thing to conference, and a little bit of balking by the house freedom caucus because they're ticked off the cr resolution, yada, yada. is there any chance to stop this thing? >> well, theoretically, yes. but in practice, no. it's -- it would be ridiculous for a...

Clear and simple obstruction of justice case. the only thing he has going for him now is there is this open question about whether he can be indicted or not or whether it has to be left to congress where of course there is still a republican majority. >> but again, i think the more important case here is the conspiracy. >> the first order case. you think they're building a very strong conspiracy case. >> oh, most definitely. it goes back to april of 2016 when papadopoulos learns of the stolen dnc e-mails. it goes to june 4th when goldstone is writing about the important dirty dirt they have on...

>> i just think this idea that deficits are going to be a winning argument or argument that republicans needs to do something kind of mental gymnastics around in order to prop them up as a way to cut entitlements, i think those days are gone. >> that's the risk you run. that's a great point. >> were these odd populist xenophobic republicans who decided that these people were going to put money and rights back in their hands when they had been taken by unnamed folks a while ago. >> and voted for guy who said i will not cut social security, medicare or medicaid. >> they don't care about the defi...

Is that republicans don't like deficits. they love deficits. it gives them a perfect excuse to slash spending for the poor and the middle class who are just going to waste the money on booze and things of that sort. and it ties the hands of a democratic president or a democratic congress when they are in power. because that is the only time republicans will actually do anything about the deficit. and if they bring down the deficit, it's like putting money into a savings account that republicans can later use to cut taxes some more. >> right. >> so the republicans love deficits. >> are people's...

As standard procedure. what i think is being described here makes sense, which is that you'll have teams or cells of agents assigned for a particular target. you might have some team working flint. some team working another target and they will come in and ask the same witness different types of questions. so when the witness thinks that they are done for the time being, they don't necessarily realize that there is another team of agents outside the door because they will come at it from a different approach. >> what has this done to the folks that experienced it based on your reporting. >> on...